There were quite a few things Out of Place things that needed swifting out ,materialed demons,Nepheliem's ,structures and technology that would scare the hell out of us if we saw them today and don't forget genetic manipulation expiriments on humans that created so many myths for monsters like gorgons,centaurs etc. All that together with the fact that we are still regarded inferior creation somewhere between animal and angel gives the right to God to treat us the way he does .Yes ,it doesn't make sense and things could be handled differently but that would make a me god ,wouldn't it ? And that is back in the same argument ,who has the right to know bad from good ?
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What did God accomplish with the flood?
by jam inthe purpose of the flood, because man grieved him to.
his heart, so he started over.
did his plan work?
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Who are the "least ones " mentioned in Matthew 25:45 ?
by raymond frantz inin matthew 25:45 it says :"he will reply, 'i tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.
' " since this prophesy is happening during jesus second coming ,these least ones must be a specific group of people .your thoughts please ?.
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In Matthew 25:45 it says :"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.' " Since this prophesy is happening during Jesus second coming ,these least ones must be a specific group of people .Your thoughts please ?
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At what age do people 'wake up'?
by Splash ini was thinking about this question recently after being at the meeting when new pioneers were announced for the 2013 service year.. we have a dozen or so pioneers in the congregation, and most are in their 20's.
some absolutely love the things they are taught and can't wait to spread the good news.. others in the congregation are going through the motions, tired of hearing the same old same old but have no way to change things now.
then there are a couple like me.
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I saw faults from the a young age ,I remember as a teeneger arguing with my parents why is it that we want people to listen to our message but we won't listen to them .Nevertheless it wasn't until I was in my late 30's I started seeing the problem .To much cognitive dissonance .I cam across the letter of James book ,one of the best JW books in my opinion .i could not undestant how a vile apostate write such a beutiful book .The internet had definetely awaken many
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blondie, they used to give the phonelink to anyone but recently they got really strick ,to get the phonelink number you need the approval of the elders
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Northwest England ,attendance the same ,but very unhappy congragation ,stoping the Book study arrangement has definetely got things worse .The small group arrangement created a family envioment ,the KH feels cold and unloving now ,that has created clique's .
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Great Crowd ,who are they in the Bible ?
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in the book of revelation the word "great crowd" appears 3 times,it is quite interesting that in all 3 verses it says a great crowd and not the great crowd .could that possibly mean that this is not a specific group but just a multitude of spiritual beings in heaven ?in the same line of reasoning the bible uses the word "a great crowd " in john 6:2 ," 2 but a great crowd kept following him, because they were beholding the signs he was performing upon those who were ill." are we to believe that the great crowd in john 6:2 has any significance ,or identifies a specific group of people with unique attributes?.
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Hi transhuman68 , I'm Greek and know how to read the ancient text (I'm not trying to show off) just looking for more ideas :The verse says "οχλος πολυς" which translates "crowd many" but there is no definitive article in front of it .If it was a specific group it would say "ο πολυς οχλος" , o , being the article .
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Great Crowd ,who are they in the Bible ?
by raymond frantz in.
in the book of revelation the word "great crowd" appears 3 times,it is quite interesting that in all 3 verses it says a great crowd and not the great crowd .could that possibly mean that this is not a specific group but just a multitude of spiritual beings in heaven ?in the same line of reasoning the bible uses the word "a great crowd " in john 6:2 ," 2 but a great crowd kept following him, because they were beholding the signs he was performing upon those who were ill." are we to believe that the great crowd in john 6:2 has any significance ,or identifies a specific group of people with unique attributes?.
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Hi Vanderhoven7 ,I'm trying to see this issue from a different point of view really .Concetrating on the fact that there is no definitive article in front of the phrase great crowd so therefore any interprentation of who they really are is loose ,thanks for the youtube videos .I'll watch them now
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Great Crowd ,who are they in the Bible ?
by raymond frantz in.
in the book of revelation the word "great crowd" appears 3 times,it is quite interesting that in all 3 verses it says a great crowd and not the great crowd .could that possibly mean that this is not a specific group but just a multitude of spiritual beings in heaven ?in the same line of reasoning the bible uses the word "a great crowd " in john 6:2 ," 2 but a great crowd kept following him, because they were beholding the signs he was performing upon those who were ill." are we to believe that the great crowd in john 6:2 has any significance ,or identifies a specific group of people with unique attributes?.
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In the book of Revelation the word "great crowd" appears 3 times,it is quite interesting that in all 3 verses it says A great crowd and not THE great crowd .Could that possibly mean that this is not a specific group but just a multitude of spiritual beings in heaven ?In the same line of reasoning the Bible uses the word "a great crowd " in John 6:2 ," 2 But a great crowd kept following him, because they were beholding the signs he was performing upon those who were ill." Are we to believe that the great crowd in John 6:2 has any significance ,or identifies a specific group of people with unique attributes?
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The deaf strike back! YouTuber posts sign language response to masturbation video...
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_xiho8btyo.
it's great to see that the deaf community receiving some objective reaction in sign language to crazy jw beliefs.
cedars.
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Click on More Info and you will see the description ,which is what she is trying to say in Sign language
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HOW TO IDENTIFY THE TRUE RELIGION
by Fifth Column injesus said that the true religion would be evident in the lives of the people who practice it.
by their fruits you will recognize them, he said.
every good tree produces fine fruit.
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Now let's see this list again :
1. Base their teachings on the Bible (like :Jesus is the mediator of only the 144,000 ? baptise in the name of the Father Son and Anthny Morris ?(spirit begotten organisation) ,forbidiing 7 million Jehovah's Witnesses to take communion, which a command from Jesus .These are SERIOUS false teachings) .....0/10
2. Worship only Jehovah and make his name known : Yes they do advertise God's name but they alse bring reproach on his name by having false doctrines.Jehovah doesn't need advertising ,doing his will is what he wants from each Christian ,which includes not following false doctrines.If you mean advertising God's name, the annoying knocking of doors Saturday morning .I've got news for you ....3/10
3. Showing true love for one another : Yes jws do not take part on wars which is definetely a massive plus BUT they destroy and seperate families with extreme unscriptural disfellowshiping practices AND let their members die by refusing blood transfusions (a questionable doctrine )........5/10
4.accept Jesus as the only means for salvation : Last time I checked obeying the GB was the only way to get saved .They have replace Jesus with a group of men as a way for salvation.BLASPHEMY! .....0/10
5.Are no part of the world : Yes they are no part of the world ,no taking part in politics or war ...........10/10
6.Preach God's Kingdom as man's only hope : Yes they do but right now GB is the only hope for man so again same problem ......5/10
Don't forget what Jesus said there will be the weed and wheat class growing together until the very end and only they the angels will do the seperating work .So do not concetrate on to who is God's people today ,this is a myth .God's people can be found in every Christian denomination .Instead concetrate on to whether you personally display the characteristics of the true Christian